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Post by erekose on Mar 26, 2014 22:07:39 GMT
No.. not a silly question.
Presumably they existed in a now broken off timeline, along with the other 'origin of the Dalek' concepts.
BUT.. it does leave open interesting concepts doesn't it?
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Post by Moose on Mar 26, 2014 22:15:29 GMT
It's been a long, long time since I last saw Genesis of the Daleks and I can't remember the details. I do remember being petrified by Davros as a child though. This is one of the episodes which I remember watching when I was very young but later realised that I must have been watching as a repeat since it was first transmitted when I was only two or three.
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Post by erekose on Mar 26, 2014 22:35:47 GMT
Davros is a fairly late version of the Origin story.
The first semi-official version would probably have been the one given in.. um.. TV-cimic (?)
In that Daleks were originally positronic creations, which survived a devasting war. Three of the original race survived, but were ultimately killed by the Daleks.
Probably the second (implied) creation, is that they were what the Wargamers 'evolved' into, as a result of their planet being 'cast out' by the TimeLords.
The third, would be a story written by Terry Nation himself for the 30 years Radio Times special, predating the Tom Baker 'Davros' version. In that the Doctor found a record of a scientist, who had investigated a planet believed to be the original home of the Daleks. That an alien race had abducted primitive humans from Earth, then accelerated their evolution, resulting in The Daleks.
Then of course, came the 'Davros' version. Unfortunately a somewhat forced 'protagonist'
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Post by cloister on Mar 27, 2014 20:25:25 GMT
I'm sorry...what are Thaleks? Are they from the New Series, meaning I probably haven't heard of them? I know of the Kaleds and the Thals. And...'other' origin of the Daleks concepts - am I missing something? Again, if it's New Series it'll explain why I haven't heard of them.
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Post by Moose on Mar 27, 2014 20:26:43 GMT
No it's not new series. I suspect that it might be something of Erekose's own personal invention lol
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Post by erekose on Mar 28, 2014 21:03:45 GMT
Not my invention...
If memory serves, when the Daleks were first encountered, The Doctor, found evidence that the Thals had themselves mutated into an apparently horrific form, but had in time reverted back to the form they had.
It just seemed to me that this other race counter to the Daleks, would appropriately be named Thaleks, as they were, well.. Thals.
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Post by cloister on Mar 30, 2014 17:58:42 GMT
No, I don't think they were mutated in that sense. The Daleks said that the Thals were mutations, and the Doctor's party wondered what they must be like if even the Daleks thought they were mutations. But it turned out that they'd just mutated into physically 'perfect' humanoid beings. There was no 'dalek-like' midway stage (not onscreen during the original series at least).
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Post by erekose on Apr 2, 2014 17:30:43 GMT
I need to check.. but I'm pretty sure that they found some records of the Thals, which had depictions of what they themselves had looked like thousands of years before, and Ian showed signs of revulsion. If this is the case, then it would be a very strong indication that the mutation would be, over time, left to its own devices, such that the Daleks themselvces could revert to 'normal'.
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Post by erekose on Apr 2, 2014 17:31:58 GMT
And what the Daleks said would in their view be correct.. If the Daleks and Thals had both mutated as a result of the Neutron bomb detonation, but the Thals reverted back, to the Daleks it would be a mutation of the Thals, since they regard themselves as being superior.
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Post by Alvamiga on Apr 2, 2014 19:13:18 GMT
I don't think the Daleks are much cop if you take away their vehicles!  |
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Post by erekose on Apr 6, 2014 7:39:00 GMT
It's a sad thing to say, but the original Daleks were pretty much Mekons.
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Post by Alvamiga on Apr 6, 2014 10:20:48 GMT
How "Dare" you make such a comparison!  |
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Post by erekose on Apr 6, 2014 19:55:37 GMT
"At least the Doctor never had to suffer getting caught by the Mekons.
I know another old school playground joke.. but, today it's not exactly PC to tell. And no.. it's not the "What do toilet paper and Captain Kirk have in common?" joke.
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Post by gar on Apr 9, 2014 0:20:59 GMT
I thought that Davros was supposed to have made the daleks. I presume that he was the same Davros that featured in the new editions but the Dr said that he was dead!
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Post by erekose on Apr 10, 2014 20:21:43 GMT
Davros was introduced in "Genesis of the Daleks" in the Tom Baker era.
Prior to this, there had never been any indication of the Daleks as being specifically created, but were supposed to have been a progressive mutation.
However, the comics in which The Daleks strip featured (and which incidently introduced the very unique at the time Dalek Type-font) did imply that the Daleks were artificial constructs.
The Radio Times special story which Terry Nation wrote (again pre-Tom Baker) stated that the Daleks were an accelerated evolution of mankind, and that the true 'horror' is that it what Man is destinied to become.
It should be noted that there were a 'second-class' of Daleks, in that the Daleks did for a time at least, construct artificial bio-Daleks interiors.
All rather confusing, isn't it?
And this doesn't even start to take in my heretical view on how things should have been.
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